What Does The Organization Really Teach?

by Sea Breeze in

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Sea Breeze

We have lots of eye witness accounts. Naturally they became believers because they saw the risen Jesus. The whole death and resurrection of Jesus was very public in a major city, the heart of Israel - Jerusalem. But if you dis-allow eyewithess accounts from believers, then that is poor scholarship. That is not how historical scholarship works.

It's like saying to a court, you can't allow eyewitness testimony of the murder because they are biased, they believe the defendant is a murderer! That's nonsense.

No one says it better than Donnal and Connal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0d4FHHf00pY

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If you don't GERRIT you remain in the LOSCH of Watchtower

by Longlivetherenegades in

if you don't gerrit you remain in the losch of lies and manipulations of the new world society of jehovah’s witnesses .

today only one organization is exclaiming about this real peril.

this is the new world society of jehovah’s witnesses.

Sea Breeze

Thank you for the clarification.

So Losch is comparing God's one true oranization to the "whore of Babylon" saying in effect, "they did it too". I can't see how that helps his case.

I don't think that will fly with the older JW's.

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If you don't GERRIT you remain in the LOSCH of Watchtower

by Longlivetherenegades in

if you don't gerrit you remain in the losch of lies and manipulations of the new world society of jehovah’s witnesses .

today only one organization is exclaiming about this real peril.

this is the new world society of jehovah’s witnesses.

Sea Breeze

So from all of the above how come is the Watchtower, New world society of Jehovah’s Witnesses the only organisation sounding the warning, exclaiming the real peril? How? This is a deliberate and well constructed effort of that religious organization to mislead right from the inception.

I'm sorry, but I don't get your point in the OP.

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Spiritual Paradise?? (ex)JW Elder to stand trial for multiple rapes over a 10-year period.

by Balaamsass2 in

former jehovah's witness elder committed to stand trial accused of sunshine coast rapes, sexual abuse.

a former jehovah's witness elder has been committed to stand trial for raping and sexually abusing young men on the sunshine coast over a 10-year period.police arrested 62-year-old mooloolaba man peter mitchelson in august 2022 and charged him with more than 50 sexual offences, including 21 counts of rape that allegedly occurred at various locations on the sunshine coast and in brisbane from 2008 to 2018.. the charges relate to five adult male complainants known to mr mitchelson through the jehovah's witness faith.. a committal hearing at maroochydore today heard mr mitchelson allegedly used his seniority as a former congregation elder to coerce the younger men to perform sexual acts for his gratification.. police said the acts were non-consensual and made the alleged victims feel "used, controlled, and lied to".. mr mitchelson was committed to stand trial in the district court on 53 charges, while charges of incest and torture were dismissed due to a lack of evidence.. 'positive affirmations' allegedly escalated.

the court heard the majority of alleged offending started with mr mitchelson advising alleged victims on how to use '"positive affirmations" to improve their confidence.. police said initial meetings with mr mitchelson involved alleged victims standing in front of a mirror repeating the phrase: "i'm strong.

Sea Breeze

oh thats nasty memes | quickmeme

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What Does The Organization Really Teach?

by Sea Breeze in

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Sea Breeze

Jesus Outside the Bible-The Top Ten Historical References

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXpOLh2vNNM&t=332s

Things we can know about Jesus from ancient non-Christian sources.:

First, both Josephus and Lucian indicate that Jesus was regarded as wise. Second, Pliny, the Talmud, and Lucian imply He was a powerful and revered teacher. Third, both Josephus and the Talmud indicate He performed miraculous feats. Fourth, Tacitus, Josephus, the Talmud, and Lucian all mention that He was crucified. Tacitus and Josephus say this occurred under Pontius Pilate. And the Talmud declares it happened on the eve of Passover. Fifth, there are possible references to the Christian belief in Jesus' resurrection in both Tacitus and Josephus. Sixth, Josephus records that Jesus' followers believed He was the Christ, or Messiah. And finally, both Pliny and Lucian indicate that Christians worshipped Jesus as God!

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Spiritual Paradise? Jehovah's Witness cons JW seniors out of life savings.

by Balaamsass2 in

3/28/2024 central california coast.

found guilty of $1.2 million scam targeting seniors.

ex-insurance agent brett e. lovett convicted of fraud, elder abuse, grand theft, and money laundering".

Sea Breeze

You can’t make this stuff up! Of course he ripped off gullible JWs yo buy breast implants for his stripper gf.

According to Casey, Lovett had been implicated in a prior case — a civil action — for bilking parishioners at another Kingdom Hall. In that case, Casey said, Lovett settled. On the stand in that case, Casey stated Lovett admitted to using the proceeds to buy breast implants for a girlfriend and hair plugs for himself.

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What Does The Organization Really Teach?

by Sea Breeze in

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Sea Breeze

There is a near universal majority of scholars in many fields—historians, Bible scholars, New Testament scholars, philologists, archaeologists, anthropologists, literature, folklore and oral history specialists, paleographers, linguistics scholars in Hebrew, Aramaic, Greek, those in the field of the Classics, a Dead Sea scroll specialist or two, and many others—from atheist to Jew to liberal to fundamentalist Christian, who all agree Jesus existed.

Over the last two hundred years, there has also been a small group called “mythicists” who have asserted there was no historical Jesus. Richard Carrier is a mythicist.

Bart Ehrmann is an "agnostic leaning atheist" New Testament scholar. He is not a Christian.

Here is his critique of Richard Carrier. It's worth a read.

Richard Carrier: A Fuller Reply to His Criticisms, Beliefs, and Claims about Jesus

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Lines you would never hear from a Jehovah's Witness

by Ron.W. in

a slightly tongue in cheek, but also serious roundup of jw speak and why trying to reason with them is like trying to chip through concrete with a plastic spoon.. how many can you think of??.

elder: 'yes.

i read through the material you asked me to at your judicial meeting - you're right we're both in a cult!

Sea Breeze

"It is appointed unto man once to die and then to face Judgment" - Hebrews 9: 27

I corrected the chapter and verse above.

Gal. 1: 8 - As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed.

The two-tier salvation (one with the new covenant "for the forgiveness of sins' and one without it) was unknown in Christianity until Russell taught it.

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